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Mon Mar 9 12:22:38 2009 CST
By Lee Ann O'Neal
The names of dead voters may have been used to cast unlawful ballots in two recent elections, a Texas Watchdog investigation has found.The votes found by Texas Watchdog -- two discovered so far by digging through reams of paper and electronic records -- appear to be isolated events that don't point to a pattern or trend of fraudulent activity.
But our reporting, which followed the trail from the polling place all the way to the Harris County district attorney's office in charge of public integrity, shows how easy it would be to commit voter fraud - and how tough it can be to prosecute people who commit the crime.
"You basically need a confession in order to prosecute someone," said Julian Ramirez, Harris County assistant district attorney.
The district attorney's office receives about 2,000 election-related referrals per year from the public or other government officials wondering whether a crime has been committed, assistant district attorney Donna Goode said. These range from alleged campaign violations to suspected voter fraud.
But because of insufficient evidence, and because the staff's mission is not to investigate but to prosecute once someone else brings them the goods, less than 5 percent of the 2,000 referrals actually go before a grand jury or result in someone being charged with a crime.
The findings come as lawmakers in Austin prepare to debate whether voters should present photo identification at the polls.
The discussion promises to be heated. Some groups say photo ID is needed to protect the integrity of the election process while others say the plan amounts to voter suppression and would harm the very poor, the very old and people with disabilities.
Currently, Texas requires ID, but many documents meet the requirement, including a water bill, which could be forged easily using a basic computer and printer.
An argument against photo ID:
"It just seems so unnecessary for the Senate to take a full day of precious time, considering a bill that is trying to correct a nonexistent problem."
-- Barbara Weinstein, of Dallas, a vice president with the League of Women Voters of Texas.
An argument in favor:
"You have to have an ID of some kind to do anything in this country today. You cannot walk through and do anything without proving who you are, so why shouldn't you have to prove who you are for the greatest right and privilege in this country, to vote on who is going to make the laws and govern?"
--Judy Coble, a GOP activist from Pampa.
Learn more about the photo ID debate:
Follow the debate in the state Senate, and read what Democrats and the GOP have to say on the issue.
Major opinion-makers around the state have opined against photo ID at the polls. Here's a sampling, from the editorial boards of the Austin American-Statesman and the Houston Chronicle (link to editorial no longer live, but here's a companion public discussion), and click here to read Chronicle columnist and political watcher Rick Casey's take on why the photo ID measure will fail. We couldn't turn up a Texas newspaper editorial in favor of photo ID at the polls, so if you know of one, please post the link in the comments below.
And read more reporting by Texas Watchdog:
~ Read about the two cases of potentially unlawful ballots cast by people impersonating deceased voters at the polls.
~ What do officials say? Interviews with officials who work for the Harris County district attorney, the Harris County voter registrar, the Harris County clerk, and the Secretary of State.
~ What do you say? Comment on the story.
~ Related: Our earlier investigation in Houston, which found more than 4,000 people who may be deceased and listed on the voter rolls.
~ Related: In Dallas County, Texas Watchdog found dozens of clerical errors in Dallas County election records. The records pointed to the names of dead people being used to cast ballots.
Photo of a polling place sign by flickr user Tom Prete, used via a Creative Commons license.
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John Cobarruvias
Monday, 03/09/2009 - 19:34
Your recent investigation about 4000 dead people voting wasnt exactly too accurate, was it?
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Trent Seibert
Monday, 03/09/2009 - 19:57
John,
We appreciate you visiting our site, but definately give us a careful read. Check out our original story about dead voters in Houston. What we found was 4,000 potential names of dead people on the voter rolls -- certainly lots of potential for fraud but certainly not 4,000 dead people voting!
We link to that story in this more recent investigation but you can also click on the link below.
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2008/10/dead-voters-still-registered-in-harris-county/
Trent
Editor
Texas Watchdog
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Tom Prete
Monday, 03/09/2009 - 20:14
Hey there, thanks for the photo credit. Good to see that pic put to good use. Best of luck with your endeavors.
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Jennifer Peebles
Monday, 03/09/2009 - 21:09
Tom, John,
Welcome to the blog to both of you. And Tom, thanks a bunch for making your picture available via flickr.
Take care,
Jennifer P.
jennifer@texaswatchdog.org
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Momentary Tingle
Tuesday, 03/10/2009 - 02:12
The fact of the matter is this report is a LIE....
You cannot name ONE single person who voted in the name of a dead person in Houston, Dallas, or anywhere else in Texas.
Momentary Tingle will give Texas Watchdog ONE MILLION DOLLARS if you can prove that one single person has voted in the name of a dead person.
You cannot do that because this whole series of reporting is FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is a FAKE scandal............ for the sole purpose of pushing a voter ID law in Texas to make it harder for poor people and senior citizens to vote.
You should all be ashamed of yourselves. You are not fooling anyone.
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kevin whited
Tuesday, 03/10/2009 - 22:54
** John, We appreciate you visiting our site, but definately give us a careful read. **
You\'re asking for quite a bit there, Trent.
** Momentary Tingle will give Texas Watchdog ONE MILLION DOLLARS if you can prove that one single person has voted in the name of a dead person. You cannot do that because this whole series of reporting is FALSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **
Why even approve the former underwear model's comment? The assertions made are unsubstantiated and inflammatory and really add nothing substantive to the conversation.
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Momentary Tingle
Wednesday, 03/11/2009 - 03:50
It is not a coincidence that this report is put out on the same day that the Texas Senate begins debate on a voter ID law.
For months, Texas Watchdog has been running a series of reports implying that there could be wide spread voter fraud by groups of people roaming the state voting in the names of dead people.
They even titled one article, Dallas County Dead Voters, on Oct 30, 2008.
Through all of this hysteria that Texas Watchdog has tried to create, not ONE single person has been shown to have actually voted in the name of a dead person.
My offer of ONE MILLION DOLLARS to Texas Watchdog if they can name just ONE person who voted in the name of a dead person, is absolutely real and will be honored if such a name can ever be produced.
Attacking me personally and my chosen profession (which paid me enough money to be able to make such a financial offer) may give you a momentary tingle Kevin Whited, but my accusations are 100% accurate and true.
You can dance around what Texas Watchdog says all you want, but there is not one shred of truth to this entire series of reporting. Not ONE person has yet been named as a fraudulent voter after six months of "investigating."
NOT ONE!!!!!!!!!
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Jennifer Peebles
Wednesday, 03/11/2009 - 07:37
Momentary Tingle,
I can you assure that Texas Watchdog is not attempting to create "hysteria" -- and, given that we're a small online newspaper with a small staff and just a few hundred visitors on an average day, it's hard for me to see how we could have widespread influence on state policy even if we wanted such.
Again, as we wrote in our story, pollbook records show someone appeared to have voted in the names of two Harris County women after their deaths. Your accusations that our stories are filled with inaccuracies are, in themselves, incorrect.
Take care,
Jennifer P.
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Momentary Tingle
Wednesday, 03/11/2009 - 15:48
If you are not trying to create hysteria, then why was this report put out on the same day that the Texas Senate began debate on the voter ID Law? Was that just a coincidence, or were your bosses hoping that this report would have an influence on that process. The timing of your reporting is highly suspect. AND once again you try to dance around the simple FACT that you and your cohorts have NOT FOUND ONE SINGLE PERSON who voted in the name of a dead person. Texas Watchdog runs a series about supposed dead people voting. They run story after story about the matter. The point of the entire series is to cause concern among Texans that this could be a problem. Far from being a problem, it apparently has not even happened one time that you can prove. It is not a secret that the people financing this website have an agenda that they have publicly stated. It is also known that leaders in the Sam Adams Alliance have been involved in the right wing anti Obama TEA PARTY protests, as well as the fact that some leaders in the Sam Adams Alliance are also members of the right wing CLUB FOR GROWTH. I am still waiting for the name of just one person who voted in the name of a dead person. If you cannot name one person, then at the end of the day, there is no substance to this entire series of reporting.... it has been just for the sake of trying to influence voter ID laws in Texas.
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Angela Grant
Thursday, 03/12/2009 - 11:21
It's a pretty common procedure for news organizations to peg their reports to current events. I think you're reading too much into this article's publication date.
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Momentary Tingle
Thursday, 03/12/2009 - 19:20
It is far more than just the publication date of the "report" that is suspect. You are also very good at dancing around the two main points that I made.
ONE... that NO ONE has actually been found to have voted in the name of a dead person...
and TWO... the people financing this website have an agenda that drives the reporting on this site.
JUST GOOGLE "Trent Seibert Controversy", and "Sam Adams Alliance"... and you will be shocked at what the people behind this website have done in their past....
THE NASHVILLE SCENE (where Matt Pulle once worked) said of Trent Seibert , "during Seibert's almost five years at the Denver Post, a chunk of his reporting—much of which appeared on the major daily's front page—was cast into doubt or refuted outright." http://www.nashvillescene.com/2005-01-13/news/a-naked-gamble/www.myspace.com/nashvillescene
AND the pop culture site, Jossip says of the Sam Adams Alliance, "a shady rightwing advocacy group coincidentally named the "Sam Adams Alliance," whose backers have until now been kept hidden from public. Cached google records that we discovered show that the Sam Adams Alliance took pains to scrub its deep links to the Koch family money as well as the fake-grassroots "tea party" protests going on today." http://www.jossip.com/ed-koch-is-rick-santellis-puppet-master-exclaims-playboy-20090303/
THERE IS MUCH MORE if you just do some research.......
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Momentary Tingle
Thursday, 03/12/2009 - 19:27
THE NASHVILLE SCENE, where Matt Pulle once worked, said of TRENT SEIBERT, "during Seibert's almost five years at the Denver Post, a chunk of his reporting, much of which appeared on the major daily's front page, was cast into doubt or refuted outright." (January 13, 2005 print edition of Nashville Scene)
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tinkerthinker
Sunday, 03/15/2009 - 14:27
I hope it does pass. We need it.
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